I recently posted a video about how the Quran absolutely gets wrecked by its own claims about embryology, and a disgruntled Muslim responded and tried to defend it. It started small, with him saying that a dude named Professor Keith Moore (an embryologist) agreed with the Quran’s claims. I responded, and the conversation quickly changed from a debate about scientific miracles, to one about which religion has a better foundation to rely on: Christianity or Islam. So, since I spent too much time responding to this guy, I figure as a change of pace from dissecting the Quran, I’ll just copy-and-paste my conversation with him. This will be a two-parter at the very least, as his comments for Islam and against Christianity were both pretty long and I ended up writing a novel in response. The first part will be the evidence for and against Islam, and the second the argument for and against Christianity being purely blind faith.
As always with these types of posts, this post is not meant to bash the original commentor. Besides the fact that I spent a long time responding to him, I’m also posting this because the arguments he used are ones that you’ll commonly hear being brought up by Muslims. That means that you’ll need to know how to respond to those arguments. So, hopefully, this helps some of y’all understand how to debate these types of people and helps you rebut their claims.
[Authors Note: Because the original comment was so full of grammatical errors, I’ve tried to fix as much as possible, though there will still be some things that I’ve missed. Anything in brackets are words that I’ve had to insert to try to clarify what the person was trying to say or make the sentence easier to read or are spelling errors that I’ve fixed.
Also, when writing the original draft of this blog post, I said in the introduction that I would leave a link to the video where this guy showed up in my comments so you guys could get the full context. Unfortunately, however, as of the time that I’m editing this, I’ve found out that the original comment the guy left which led to this back-and-forth has since been deleted by him. That means that all the responses are gone as well, since it was one big chain. And since I didn’t think he would do that as no one else that I’ve debated on the internet has done that, I unfortunately didn’t screenshot it, so you guys are going to have to take my word for it that that’s what happened.
In lieu of this, to provide you guys with some context, as I said in the intro, the original comment that led to our discussion about the proof for Islam vs. Christianity was him saying that some embryologist named Professor Keith Moore agreed with the Quran’s idea of embryology. I responded and showed him all the issues with Dr. Moore’s claim and how he later seemed to denounce ever endorsing that view. The response to my reply is found below and is the one that led to this week’s series of Flippin’ Fatwa Friday posts. Enjoy.]
MUSLIM:
Nope, you are wrong again
Your source is from wiki Islam, which is Islamophobic site, and you use science to judge God’s word. Science is [a] developing field, which is not objective which always changes. [The] Quran is always right; science is not always right. The problem is you don’t know Arabic. The embryology in [the] Quran and the embryology in oxford universities are exactly the same. It aligns with modern science:
1. Semen.
2 . Clot.
3 . Leech like structure.
4 . Muscles and flesh.
It is [the] exact [description of (?)] embryology. I am a biology student, and I know more about embryology [than you], and I don’t base my religion on science. There are many [evidences] for Islam, while Christianity is based on only blind faith. Your bible has [thousands] of versions and [is the] most corrupted book in history by textual criticism.
OK, categories of [the] evidences [for] Islam:
1. [It is] Pure monotheism, which aligns with [the] Old Testament and other prophets, and [is] logically consistent [with] no confusion in terms of belief.
2. [The] Quran is inimitable, [the] Quran challenges to produce a chapter similar to [one found in it], but [in] 1,450 years, no one can do that.
In terms of linguistics, when compared with other classical Arabic texts, [the] Quran was revealed in Arabic, but it was not same Arabic [as today (?)]. It came with [a] framework of new genre, while they had only two genres at that time (prose and poem.) It came up with new tajwid rules which was known before to Arabs. The grammatical structure is completely new, [with] uses of new words which were not used before. Old words [were] used [with] new [meanings] and new expressions which were known not to [the Arabs] and still the people understand the language. It is highly eloquent and different in its style, the verse in Quran cannot be rephrased better than that. It is revealed in 7 dialects, but the prophet only knew Quraish dialect. [It’s a] Book with zero contradiction. Fun fact is Arabic is one of the toughest languages in the world. But the grammar of Arabic is derived from Quran, which is produced by illiterate man which proves Quran is divine. Each chapters has unique miracles and structure than other chapters, even though it was not arranged in chronological order. For example, 1st chapter of [the] Quran had 51 new features of Arabic in just 7 verses There are 100+ books written to describe the excellence of Linguistic of Quran. Even the disbelievers [said] it is Magic.
3. 300+ Scientific facts which no one could no at that time, because of lack of technologies like microscope and telescope and everything matches exactly with modern Science. […] It deals with Various field like Botany, Zoology, Geology, Oceanography, Physics, Cosmology, Astrology, etc. like universe expansion, [the] big bang, [and] Embryology.
4. 100 + Historic facts which no one could know at that time, because [hieroglyphics (?)] is [dead] and [archaeological] evidence were under the soil and does not present in any scriptures before. Now By the Modern Evidences, It is proved Quran is Divine,
Example: God names [places in (?)] ancient Babylon, Place of Iram, king at the time of Old Testament tells it is Pharoah at time of joseph), mention of Haman in period of Moses, etc.
5. 200+ fulfilled prophecies in quran were fulfilled which were specific, time bound, individual bound and probability of the prophecy is very less to happen, prophecy like Roman prophecy, Mongol invasion, Treasure in Arabia, etc.
6 . 100+ Mathematical miracles align with Quran, even though Quran is orally revealed in time period of 23 Years. […] Same No of mentions foe same words and opposite words, equation of land and sea, miracle of 19, etc.
7. After examining the entire prophet life there is no way he could be not a prophet
8. Perfect judiciary system,53 countries use [the] Quran as law booj at has successful judiciary system with less crime rate and rape rates.
9. Preservation of Quran, both orally and by manuscripts. Quran was memorized by millions of people around the world and the Quran we have is [the] same in [the] Birmingham manuscript carbon dated to [the Prophet’s] time. [The] Sanaa manuscript 945 Qur’anic manuscript which aligns with each other and todays Quran and Topkapi manuscripts.
10. Miracles performed by prophet attested by eyewitnesses and [mass] transmitted and collected by many individuals and we know exactly all people who they [were], their memory power, their character and we have their biographies and we know what people thought about them at that time and which secular history agrees and we have non Islamic evidences for miracle.
11 . Mention of prophet Mohammad in previous scriptures many times, e.g. Daniel 7, Isaiah 42, etc.
12. Early Christology like Q gospels and James’ gospel points to the belief of Islam.
13. Will you believe if small group of eskimos defeated two powerful nation America and Russia at the same time? But [that] was [what] happened in 7th century small groups of Arabs who don’t have proper military training [or] proper [weapons] [have] defeated [the] most powerful two empires: Roman and Persian at the same time. Historians were still amazed how it happened Islam bought 53 nations to pure monotheism from polytheism and paganism with the help of God and fun fact is they were gentiles and submitted to Islam in 23 years entirely to God as mentioned in Old Testament prophecies. Only religion with pure monotheism which people enter Islam in millions every year by the grace of Allah.
[These] are just categories of evidence of Islam, and we can go more deeper in each category and we have many categories like this. Unfortunately, I can’t type all, because I am becoming tired. If someone refutes Islam after knowing this evidence just get ready to face God.
ME:
I apologize for the very long read, but as the conversation seems to have moved away from debating the original point and more towards a debate about which religion has more to back it up, let’s focus on that, starting with a rebuttal of your proofs for Islam:
1). The Quran does not align with the Old Testament prophets nor is it logically consistent. To start with the Old Testament prophets, there are many things that the Quran differs from the Bible on about them. I can think of three examples of this off the top of my head:
First, is how, in the story of Abraham about to sacrifice his son, the Quran has him almost sacrifice Ishmael, the father of the Arab people, (who had been kicked out of the family at that point by request of Abraham’s wife) while the Bible has him almost sacrifice Issac, his heir and preferred child, a change that has major theological implications.
Second, the Quran also skips over the story of the Passover, which is seen as a major theological and historical event by Jews and Christians. For Jews, the Passover is a story reflecting God’s provision for the people of Israel, while for Christians, it’s a reflection of Christ’s blood saving us from eternal damnation. For the Quran to skip over this is beyond just being a major oversight. It’s yet another issue that has major doctrinal implications. That’s also not mentioning how other plagues mentioned in the Bible in the Exodus story are skipped over, which is an issue as the 10 plagues were also a judgement from God on the gods of Egypt.
Third, the Quran says that Satan was cast out by God for not bowing to Adam, while in the Bible, it’s made clear that Satan was cast out for not bowing to God (as reflected in the books of Isaiah and Ezekiel.) Like with the other two, there are major theological implications that come with this change. After all, why should creation by punished for not bowing down to other created beings by God when God is the only one whom all creatures should bow to?
As for the Quran not being logically consistent, we have the Clear Quran Dilemma. The Quran consistently claims to be the clearest book ever written that explains everything, yet there are many parts of it that are obscure or difficult to understand. In Tafsir al-Tabari about Surah 3:7, it says: “It is He Who has sent down to you (Muhammad) the Book (this Qur’an). In it are Verses that are entirely clear, they are the foundations of the Book [and those are the Verses of Al-Ahkam (commandments, etc.), Al-Fara’id (obligatory duties) and Al-Hudud (legal laws for the punishment of thieves, adulterers, etc.)]; and others not entirely clear. So as for those in whose hearts there is a deviation (from the truth) they follow that which is not entirely clear thereof, seeking Al-Fitnah (polytheism and trials, etc.), and seeking for its hidden meanings, but none knows its hidden meanings save Allah. And those who are firmly grounded in knowledge say: “We believe in it; the whole of it (clear and unclear Verses) are from our Lord.” And none receive admonition except men of understanding.”
How is this logically consistent? How can something be a perfect, clear guidance, yet have things in it that are completely unclear?
And is only one dilemma in Islam. Philosopher David Suarez wrote a book in which he examines 100 dilemmas that draw from the Quran, classical kalām, Sunni, Shi‘i, Salafi, Ashʿarī, Māturīdī, and Sufi schools.
2). You claim the Quran in inimitable, yet thanks to AI, I can and already have imitated the Quran to produce satirical verses. (Apologetics: Flippin’ Fatwa… Wednesday? AI Quran. – The Tanuki Corner) And as someone who has read the Quran, this is very similar to how it sounds in my copy. The only way Muslims have been able to say that it’s inimitable for so long is because they keep moving the goalposts for what counts as a good imitation of the Quran.
Additionally, inimitability is not a quality of something that’s good for judging its veracity. For instance, many people have tried to imitate the work of J.R.R. Tolkien and have failed. Does that mean that Middle Earth is real? Absolutely not! This is an incredibly weak argument to support something’s truth.
3). The scientific miracles have all been so thoroughly debunked by critics of Islam over the past 30 years or so that even prominent Islamic figures such as Ali Dawah have admitted that they are simply ineffective ways of winning converts. Going back to embryology for a second, and as much as you want to argue that the Quranic description of it is the same as what’s taught in medical schools, it’s simply not. It’s clearly referring to the embryo being a blood clot, which is not true. Even if you want to say that “alaq” means “suspended thing,” that’s quite a stretch. Then with other descriptions about an embryo or fetus looking like a leech-like thing, that’s subjective, especially since there are different types of leeches. Further, this was described long before the Quran by Aristotle, Galen, Hippocrates, and others. You can keep covering your ears and trying to refute that, but that’s the fact of the matter.
Some other “miracles” that have been debunked are the ideas that:
– The Quran contains reference to atomic theory even though the word they translate as “atom” is better translated “small ant.”
– The idea that the Earth was created first, then the universe which is not only contradicted by other verses, but is also contradicted by the fact that the universe is expanding and stars were created first.
– That the Quran was the first book to have the discovery that the moon reflects light from the sun when Aristotle figured that out long before Muhammad.
– The idea that salt water and fresh water don’t mix, even though fresh water/saltwater mix all the time to create brackish water and the barrier referred to is also translated as dry land.
4). The alleged “historical facts” in the Quran have also been thoroughly debunked. What there are in the Quran are a ton of hilariously obvious historical anachronisms and myths, some of which I’ve done videos on. For instance, the Quran alleges that King David invented chainmail, something that was only invented by the Celts and wouldn’t make it to the Middle East until long after the time of David. It also says that:
– Joseph was sold using dinar, which are coins and weren’t invented yet (the shekels in the parallel narrative in the Bible were a unit of weight.)
– Alexander the Great was a monotheist and lived a long life when he was, in fact, a staunch polytheist, even believing himself to be the son of Zeus, and died at 32.
– Has Haman in Ancient Egypt, as well as the tower of Bable during the time of Moses, though those were separated by centuries.
– The Ancient Egyptians practiced crucifixion when that didn’t come around until the Persians; etc.
Once again, this is something I could go on and on about.
5). The Quran’s prophecies are a bit more complex to debunk but let me quickly set a standard. In the Mosaic law, in Deuteronomy 18:20-22, it says that if a prophet gets even one thing prophecy wrong and it doesn’t come to pass, then he is a false prophet, not from God, and must be stoned to death.
With that in mind, if Muhammad even got one prophecy wrong, he is a false prophet. So, let’s look at some prophecies to see how he holds up to the test:
In Surahs 9:33, 61:9, and 48:28, the Quran predicts that Islam will prevail over all religion. Yet 1,400 years later, and the world is still religiously plural, Christianity is still king, and Islam is current facing such a dramatic rise in apostasy rates (26%) that leaders of the Ummah are panicking, describing it as “an avalanche.” And if you want to say that “prevail” means “to stay true” or that it will only prevail over everyone else, that’s 1). not how traditional scholars ever read it and 2). the last one is shifting the goalpost so as to make it unfalsifiable.
Surah 5:67 says that Allah would protect Muhammad from people, something he clearly took literally as Tafsir writers say that shortly after this revelation, he dismissed his bodyguards. Later he was severely wounded at Uhud and was later poisoned by a Jewess at Khaybar. If that wasn’t bad enough, according Sahih tradition, as Muhammad was dying, he reportedly said that it felt as though his aorta was being cut. This feeling is also said to be tied to his poisoning at Khaybar. This is damning by Islamic standards, as in Surah 69:44-46, it says that Allah will cut the aorta of a false prophet. Allah not only made it feel that his aorta was being cut but did not protect him from the people who wished him harm, as Muhammad had revealed Allah to have promised.
Already, there is good reason to doubt Muhammad’s veracity on these points, but let’s keep going.
Surah 3:111-112 says that Allah will protect Jews and Christians except from annoyances as long as they submit to Muslims and if they turn their backs, they will be slaughtered. Only…history shows us that Jews and Christians have defeated Muslims numerous times, with Crusaders massacring Muslims during their takeover of Jerusalem in 1099, Iberian Christians expelling Muslims in 1492, the fact that European colonizers ruled Muslim lands for centuries, the Jews have been able to keep Muslims from destroying Israel for decades (i.e. the 1948 Arab-Israeli War), etc. There are a ton of examples of Christians and Jews defeating Muslims. If this verse only applies to the Medinan Jews, then it should not be used universally. If it is universal, then history points to it being false.
Surah 30:2-4 predicts that Rome (more specifically, the Byzantines) would defeat Persia, but according to the Quran it would happen in “a few years.” The hadiths make this time frame clear: 3-9 years. Rome’s defeat of Persia happened about 13-14 years after the prophecy was given. It was close, but not quite, and frankly, it’s weak example of a prophecy, since it’s something I come up with. Just a few years ago, back in 2024, on a phone call with a friend who was planning on going into the military, I predicted that if he went in, he would probably end up having to fight in a war or be serving during wartime. The length of mandatory service once you enlist in the military here in the U.S. is four years, so I was predicting that the U.S. would end up in some sort of conflict between the time of his graduation to 2029. It’s been two years since I made that prediction and would you look at that, and there’s a war in Iran. I guess I’m a prophet to Gen Z Americans now.
Then there’s the fact that according to multiple authentic hadiths (such as Bukhari and Muslim), Muhammad predicted that the end of the world would come after the fall of Constantinople. Sure enough, Constantinople fell (hence why it’s called Istanbul) and… we’re still here.
God does not lie about what will happen in the future, much less pass the lies on to a prophet. Based on the failure of these predictions, promises, and prophecies alone, Muhammad was a false prophet. By the standard of Deuteronomy, even if Muhammad got a prophecy right here and there, he was a false prophet because of the “prophecies” that did not come to pass or were not accurate.
6). It’s certainly odd that there are *supposed* numerical miracles in the Quran, however, other religions have also claimed this of their holy books or attributed significant religious meaning to numbers, including Hinduism, Buddhism, Mormonism, Judaism, and some mystical sects Christianity. Pagan spiritual practices also commonly use numbers and as someone who is familiar with New Age practices, it’s very common in the New Age beliefs, especially for fortune telling. It’s easy to come up with pseudoscience to make the claim that such and such book has some sort of numerical miracle. If someone really wanted to, I’m sure they could find some numerical miracle in how many branches are on a tree or how many times a word is used in a book. It’s a weak claim.
7). See point 5. From my studies of Muhammad’s life, due to his traumatic childhood, his actions, and pre-revelatory symptoms, he likely had a cluster B personality disorder, epilepsy, was demon possessed, or had a mix. I wrote a massive paper on this which will be on my blog soon if you’re interested. I’ve concluded that Muhammad was an evil, but pitiable human being.
8). Sharia law is not a perfect law system. In fact, it’s possibly the worst I’ve ever seen because of how oppressive it is, often specifically oppressing women and free speech. And if we want to talk about crime rates and rape rates, Muslim countries like Nigeria and Lebanon have some of the highest crime rates. Iraq, Libya, Afghanistan, Syria, Sudan, Yemen, Somalia, Malaysia, the UAE, Saudi Arabia, and Pakistan, also have high to moderate criminality scores. There are, of course, other factors that can contribute to this (after all, population size and economic status can affect things dramatically), but sharia doesn’t seem to have much to do with keeping overall crime rates low. We also must not forget the fact that many atrocities, such as rape, go unreported under Sharia law, as according to the Quran, a woman needs 4 male witnesses to testify on her behalf in a rape case. This, then, would naturally give the appearance of a low-rape society, when the reality is much darker.
9). You bring up the Sanaa palimpsest, but this actually helps prove my point that the Quran has not been perfectly preserved. According to Wikipedia, this manuscript holds a dark secret:
“The upper text entirely conforms to the standard Uthmanic Quran in text and in the standard order of surahs (chapters). The lower text, which was erased and written over by the upper text but can still be read with the help of ultraviolet light and computer processing, contains many variations from the standard text. The sequence of its chapters corresponds to no known Quranic order.”
In the upper text of the palimpsest (the one you can see without UV light), are 17 non-orthographic variants, where readings differ from those found in the standard Quran. 5 of the 17 variants correspond known Qira’at readings. The lower text of the palimpsest, meanwhile, has a whopping 61 variants from the standard text. These variants are more substantial than the ones in the upper text because they often include the addition of whole words or phrases.
According to Gabriel Said Reynolds, professor of Islamic Studies and Theology, the lower text of the Sanaa palimpsest, not only “does not agree with the standard text read around the world today”, but its variants “do not match the variants reported in medieval literature for those codices kept by companions” of Muhammad, and “has so many variants that one might imagine it is a vestige of an ancient version that somehow survived Uthman’s burning of all versions of the Qur’an except his own.”
That’s really not good news for the perfect preservation of the Quran.
“But wait!” you say, “Those differences are just from different dialects from the time!”
Well then, if the variants are from different dialects, then why does Surah 2:196 contain the word “Sadaq” as an option to fulfill the compensation in the standard text, while the lower text completely omits it? The lower text, in the same verse also omits “your heads” not specifying what needs to be shaved as in the standard text. Or how in Surah 2:222, there are major structural deviations in the sentences, and the Sanaa text exchanges or omits some words for synonyms.
But one of the most striking of the differences between the Sanaa’s lower text and the standard Uthmanic text is found in Surah 9:18. In the standard Uthmanic text, it says to “establish prayer and give Zakat,” but in the lower text of the Sanaa, it says to “do jihad in the name of Allah.” Jihad is not synonymous with prayer and Zakat.
Once more, I could go on and on with the differences between the Sanna Palimpsest and the standard Quran that we have today. But my last point to your inevitable objection that it’s just the result of different dialects is: If so, why did Allah go through all that trouble to make sure other Arab tribes understood it, but not the Persians or the Greeks who would be taken over by the Ummah? And ultimately, was it really worth it for Allah to reveal the Quran in such a way that would cause controversy leading to 14 centuries of infighting and unnecessary bloodshed?
10). The Quran denies that Muhammad performed miracles numerous times, and because of the fact that it also says that he did miracles and the Hadiths agree, it opens up a massive contradiction in Islam. Look up Surah 2:118, 2:145, 6:37, 6:109, 10:20, 13:7, 11:12, 13:27, 17:90-93, etc. To refute your claim that secular historians attest to Muhammad’s miracle-working abilities, I need to you provide me with some examples.
11). Muhammad is never mentioned anywhere in the Bible. Deuteronomy 18:15-19 doesn’t talk about him; it talks about someone coming who would be like Moses, which points to later prophets and finally, Jesus. He met all the criteria, being from among the Israelites (which Muhammad was not), a mediator between God and humanity, a deliverer from bondage, and establisher of the covenant. (Who is the Prophet in Deuteronomy 18:15–19? | GotQuestions.org, If Deuteronomy 18:15 refers to a “prophet like Moses,” why did subsequent prophets have different messages and methods?)
Daniel 7:13 is also not talking about Muhammad and the Night Journey in context. Let’s read Daniel 7:13-14, shall we:
“13 “In my vision at night I looked, and there before me was one like a son of man,[a] coming with the clouds of heaven. He approached the Ancient of Days and was led into his presence. 14 He was given authority, glory and sovereign power; all nations and peoples of every language worshiped him. His dominion is an everlasting dominion that will not pass away, and his kingdom is one that will never be destroyed.”
Now, you’re not supposed to worship Muhammad, are you? The answer, as far as I know, is “NO!” That would be shirk. So, you’re not supposed to worship Muhammad, and it can’t be said that Muhammad will rule in eternity as, once again, that’s shirk. This clearly is not talking about Muhammad but rather speaks of Jesus coming as the Messiah. In fact, this passage is why He commonly called Himself “The Son of Man.”
Similarly, Daniel 9:24-27 is not speaking of Muhammad. Is Muhammad ever called the Messiah as Daniel calls the ruler in verse 25 of this passage? No.
Further, the weeks referred to are sets of seven years. The seventy seven-year periods equal 490 years. This period started from the rebuilding of Jerusalem (verse 24) and ends with the death of the Messiah (the Prince, the Anointed One.) That lands the culmination of the events described in 33 AD or so, which lines up to the time when Jesus died. (What are the seventy sevens in Daniel 9:24-27? | GotQuestions.org) There is no conceivable way in which one can say this is referring to Muhammad as nothing points in that direction.
The claim that Isaiah 42:1-11points to Muhammad is an example of isogesis (reading something into the text that’s not there.) Further, it’s an example of bad hermeneutics. For one thing, Isaiah 42 is one of the four Servant Songs that all point to Jesus. Second, it’s split into three parts. First is the announcement of salvation, then the song of praise, then the completion of the announcement. In these three parts, along with the larger context of the Bible, we that Jesus is the better fit, as he fits the descriptions throughout the Servant Songs (particularly Isaiah 53), rules over all as God, brought a new covenant, and will prevail on the last day.
I can go on, but ultimately the only place in the Bible where it predicts the coming of Muhammad is in the numerous places where it predicts the coming of false teachers and prophets. Sorry.
12). The existence of the Q gospels, while it’s an interesting hypothesis, is woefully unfounded, as there are no physical copies of it, nor was it ever referenced by early church fathers. (What is the Q Gospel or Q Source?) As for the Gospel of James, it’s a mid-2nd-century prequel to the birth narratives found in Matthew and Luke and is rejected from the Biblical cannon in part for that reason. It wasn’t written by people who knew Jesus, but rather an unknown author whose reliability is dubious. Further, it’s rejected as it differs theologically, contains elements that don’t line up with mainstream beliefs, and lacks apostolic authority.
13). The fact that the Muslims were able to defeat the Romans and Persians over the years is not at all miraculous. After all, many of the people in the American Revolution were not soldiers. Many went into it without much military experience. And what happened next? Well, the Americans beat the British Empire – the most powerful empire in the world at the time – and founded America.
An even better example are the Mongols, a bunch of uneducated herdsmen led by Ghengis Khan who managed to take over the majority of Asia, almost all of the Middle East, and about a quarter of Europe by 1279. Had the Mongols been forcing their religion on people, you would probably be a polytheist by now. In fact, when they reached Baghdad in 1258, they completely destroyed the Islamic Empire.
Moreover, the Muslim takeover of the Middle East happened gradually, first peacefully, then more violently. As Muhammad gained power in Medina, he began attempting to gain allies amongst the Christians and Jews, hence the Quran verses that are friendly towards them. He managed to win a few converts, but overall, the Christian and Jewish community thoroughly rejected because, upon examination of the Scriptures, they agreed that he was a false prophet. Thus, Muhammad turned violent against them and began bringing more people into the fold, not though peace, but through forcible subjugation – the convert-or-die method. He later took over Mecca and by his death, the entire Arabian Peninsula had been Islamized. After his death, the Muslims continued to grow in number, mainly through the convert-or-die method, eventually growing big enough to defeat the Persians and Byzantines.
And if it wasn’t solely through the convert-or-die method, think about what Islam promises men. If you survive jihad under Muhammad, you get booty, which includes money and plenty of beautiful women to rape. In fact, in Tafsir al-Tabari about Surah 9:49, Muhammad said this to encourage his followers to invade Byzantium:
““Among them is (many) a man who says: Grant me exemption and draw me not into trial,” it was mentioned that this verse came down regarding a man named Al-Jadd b. Qais. The Exalted mentioned in this verse, “Among them,” referring to the hypocrites. Regarding the verse, “a man who says: Grant me…” this was in reference to a man who said to the prophet, “Give command that I do not accompany you.” Regarding the verse, “draw me not into trial,” this means, “do not trouble me with the sight of the women of Al-Asfar (“The Yellow,” i.e. blonds) and their daughters, for I am tempted by women, (for I fear) that I might go out and commit a sin with them…” It was narrated by Muhammad Ibn Amru, narrated by Asim, narrated by Issa, narrated by Ibn Abi Najih, narrated by Mujahid regarding Allah’s saying, “Grant me exemption and draw me not into trial,” that the prophet of Allah said, “Invade Tabuk and your spoils will be the daughters of al-Asfar and the women of the Romans (byzantines).” Al-Jadd replied, “Grant us exemption and draw us not into trial with women.” It was narrated by Al-Qasim, narrated by Al-Hussain, narrated by Hajjaj, narrated by Ibn Jurayj, narrated by Mujahid who stated that the prophet said, “Invade and you will have the spoils of the daughters of al-Asfar” meaning the Roman women and this narration was repeated by others.”
[Author’s Note: Before you say that this isn’t authentic and shouldn’t be trusted, just note that this belief about white women from Muslim men has been recorded in historical texts from the Medieval Era, with white women being painted as nymphomaniacs. One example of this was written by al-Isfahani, a scholar and poet, who described a ship filled with 300 captive Frankish women, and went on to describe them in pornographic fashion. We also see this type of thing today, with how many white English women have reported being the particular victims of sexual degradation at the hands of Muslim men. The belief of the promiscuity of white women is one that has thrived in Muslim culture for 14 centuries.]
And that’s just in life. He also promised that if you die in jihad, you basically get the fast pass to the Playboy Mansion where you get to eat, drink, and constantly rape your 72 virgins (who are described as looking like – at best – 11-year-old girls in terms of development) with the strength of 100 men. Oh, did I also mention that you’ll be served by a bunch of little boys as well in Islamic Paradise? Yeah, that’s mentioned in the Quran too.
With those worldly and “heavenly” rewards, it’s easy to see how Muhammad could grow an army of formerly polytheistic men with promises of multiple wives, sex slaves, money, and generally the same stuff later in eternity. This isn’t a miracle; it’s simply an appeal to humanity’s base desires.
To be continued….
Until next time,
M.J.
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